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TwonkyServer default sorting behavior

I have just installed TwonkyMedia 6.0.34 into a compatible Nas device based in Linux (a Qnap NAS). In web interface of TwonkyMedia, I see the music tracks under folder 'Directory' appearing in alphabetical order, BUT these tracks are titled beggining with numbers, not by letters!! Result: Twonky disorder my music tracks!!

Curiously, it doesn't occur under folder 'Albums', by exemple. There, the tracks appear ordered considering numbers. If someone have some dubt, i'll add, it is Twonkt that disorder them, not the NAS...

Problem? Yes, because my sistem of numbering and title the hundreds and thousands of tracks makes me prefer to use folder 'Directory' over all the other ones. So, someone could help me, please?

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  • I’m pissed off at not being heard...
    Viewing folders in 'Album view' DOES NOT present them in track order.

    When is this going to get sorted out? This thread is over two years old. The whole situation is nothing short of farcical.

    Why would a company not listen to it's user base? "Get Satisfaction"? LOL....
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    • I haven't read all of the preceding posts (so don't know what equipment and control point you are using) but a way to test it would to download a known working control point (eg one that is known to respect that sort order) to then check it isn't an issue with your own device's control point. You can get Kinsky Desktop free at oss.linn.co.uk and see what that shows (there's also an iPad app version on the iTunes store). I know you might not have a Linn DS music player, but Kinsky Desktop (PC) and Kinsky (iThing) do show album sort order in my modified Twonky 6.0.39 folder view, so if it does show them in album sort order in your system, you know it's an issue with your device's control point, but if it still shows them in alphabetical track sort order, you will know it's either an error in your tree change, or the database rebuild didn't work (or there is a new bug in the latest version of Twonky; as I say, it worked fine in earlier versions of Twonky 7, so I'd be most surprised if they have disabled that option).

      I you are really 100% convinced that it doesn't work (from the above tests) let me know which version you are trying and I'll install it (and tweak the tree) on my test Qnap.

      Bri
    • Bri,
      I don't want to play with Kinsky, Linn or something else any more. I've tried 5 - 6 DLNA servers and ONLY Twonky has that problem. I would like to see that Twonky just works with such popular devices as for example Yamaha or Denon. Minidlna works for me and I'm happy. But this situation with Twonky is just ridiculous
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  • As 'stuartrolt' says, this is farcical. Twonky clearly do not care about their customers. Well over two years and hundreds of complaints on the sort order issue. Surely it is not too much to expect them to give their customers what they want. Whether you pay for Twonky or not, Twonky could not care less. Unbelievable and unacceptable.
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  • I've done all the view-definitions and device XML updates recommended. Track lists are correct on my DirecTV HD-DVR, but not correct on my Samsung Smart TV/AllShare Play. I prefer to use the Samsung app, since it will display the cover art. Any idea what I need to do to the device config to get this work right?
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  • If the changes made to adjust the sort order
    are working correctly on one device and not another
    then it might be possible to edit the client device xml for that client
    with the following quirck entry

     
    <DeviceQuirks>
    <Quirk>IGNORESORT</Quirk>
    </DeviceQuirks>


    As an example, I needed for this device
    to make it honor what twonky was telling it the sort order was

    Panasonic TC-P55UT50 sort items by title and not date client profile tweak
    http://community.twonky.com/twonky/to...

    An example of where this will not work
    is in the case of an xbox 360
    where it being the device only has two options Its gui
    which are by type or by by name
    that override anything twonky tells it

    note:
    all changes to config files require a server restart
    • Thanks for the quick reply, phiberton! Unfortunately, I already had that entry in the device file. In fact, I put it in BOTH Samsung TV device files, just to make sure I didn't miss anything. I had originally added it to the end of the list in the DeviceQuirks section. Just for grins, I went ahead and moved it to the top of the list, cleared cache and restarted TwonkyServer. Still no joy! Dunno if it matters - I'm set up with Advanced Media View.
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  • Maybe this quirck might help, might not though


    <DeviceQuirks>
    <Quirk>VALIDATEDSORT</Quirk>
    </DeviceQuirks>


    This is from the 00Readme.txt

    VALIDATEDSORT

    validate sort string in Browse and CDS:Search
    against server's known properties - not by
    default because some clients do not ask the
    sort criterias from servers
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    • After restart it retains the Samsung Smart TV setting.
    • well, that good, one less unknown issue to deal with
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  • I think I've found at least one of the causes of the underlying problem.

    It would seem that Twonky Server uses alphabetical order where the tracks have not been tagged to show the track order. I can reproduce this behaviour with albums encoded to Flac with Flac tags.

    On another variation on this behaviour, I had an album, encoded to Flac and correctly tagged with track order, but with a bonus track in MP3 format. The MP3 format file only did not have a track order tagged.

    I'm guessing from this that Twonky checks the first file it finds on a directory, checks to see whether it has a track tag, and if it does not, reverts to alphabetical indexing for that directory regardless of track tagging on the other tracks. If my guess is correct, it would also seem that Twonky looks for MP3 tracks before it goes onto other encoding types.
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